andytheswede wrote:So basically any lip-po 11,1 with stronger c than 12 will do?
The questions about which lipo will work is NOT in regard to the voltage. It's about the current, or AMPerage, the battery can provide.
To determine the AMPs a Lipo can produce use the following formula:
capacity(mAh)/1000 X C-Rating(C) = amperage(AMP)
Celcius 11.1V 1200mAh 20C:
12000mah/1000 X 20C = AMPs
1.2 X 20 = 24AMPs
Celcius 11.1V 1200mAh 12C:
1200mAh/1000 X 12C = AMPs
1.2 X 12 = 14.4AMPs
It has been posted on other forums that Systema PTWs need 25-30AMPs nominal for regular operation. If we make the assumption that the CTW motor/electronics are of lower efficiency one might also assume it needs MORE than 25-30AMPs for nominal operations. If you make those assumptions then EVEN THE CELCIUS 20C BATTERY does not provide enough current (AMPs).
Not providing the motor with enough current will:
• overwork the motor as it will strain to turn without enough current
• overworking the motor causes heat
• this heat will eventually damage the motor
That in turn causes the motor to "draw" the max current from the battery:
• pulling max amps from the battery is similar to having it under burst/peak draw ALL THE TIME which leads to ... HEAT
• heat can damage the cells
• I have read that the 1200mAh/20C only lasts about 600 shots HALF of waht it would do in a normal AEG
• working batteries under max current draw can discharge them under 3.0V minimum voltage ... DESTROYING THE BATTERY
It has also been said, though not definitively proven, that not providing enough voltage can damage the the electronics board/MOSFET
Because of all these limitations I purchased a nunchuk style battery that fits easily in the Crane stock tubes from CheapBatteryPacks.com which is 11.1V 2200mAh 25C 55AMPs ... more than enough current for the PTW and less efficient CTW. The only drawback I have heard of so far was from an Electrical Engineer/Airsofter from Univ. of Conneticut who warned that the motor brushes might wear out faster ... so I ordered spares.